Mac users should stick with online backup Mozy

header-mozy-logo.pngFor more than two years, I’ve been quite happily using the Mozy online backup service. Now owned by storage giant EMC, Mozy offers unlimited backup space for under $5 a month per computer and a slick Mac program that automatically uploads new files in the background (there’s also a Windows version but I don’t use it). You pick which folders or files for Mozy to watch and after an initial upload (one that can take literally days!), only changed files get sent to Mozy’s servers. The service has excellent security features, encrypting all data on the way to Mozy’s servers and storing it in an even more deeply encrypted format once it arrives. The truly paranoid can provide their own encryption “key” meaning no one without it — not even anyone at Mozy — can decode the files. I currently have over 150 GB stored and backed up with Mozy.

Of course, there are terrific debates and comment wars over which is the best of the various Mac-compatible online backup services. There’s also BackJack, Carbonite and BackBlaze to name just a few. Some people even prefer opening an account with Amazon’s cheap S3 online storage service and using a front-end program like Jungle Disk to backup. I have not tried most of the other options, though I did use Jungle Disk for a bit and found it too slow and unwieldly for me (plus given how much data I have, Mozy with a multi-year discount is much cheaper than S3).

I’ve positively reviewed Mozy on previous occasions but I wanted to revisit the issue because of a recent bug it caused with Apple’s Time Machine backup program and the subsequent reaction (or over-reaction in some cases) from Mozy users. It seems that after Mozy issued an upgrade (to version 1.4) on August 6, the client program began to interfere with Time Machine’s ability to backup to Apple’s Time Capsule wireless hard disk. In fact, I was among those affected but I was on vacation away from my Time Capsule so I didn’t know anything was wrong.

For about a week, the problem was driving some Time Capsule/Mozy users crazy trying to figure out what was wrong. I think it’s fair to say that the Time Machine-Time Capsule scheme has been far from problem-free. Since there have been so many problems with the two Apple bits, a lot of people didn’t realize Mozy was part of the problem at first. And some were advised (by Apple folks, I think) to reformat their Time Capsule disks, losing vast gigabytes of old backups. That’s never good.

Mozy responded quickly once the problem was revealed, posting on Apple forums, on its own blog and via Twitter.

A sample of the Twitter responses from Mozy:

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To me, that’s pretty darn good customer service. The outrage from some continues however, and that’s where I’ll have to part company with the critics. The problem was the kind of thing that happens sometimes. It only affected a small minority of Mozy’s Mac users (myself included). The bug itself didn’t corrupt any data or wreck previous backups. The company got right on it and issued a revised version (1.4.3) within seven days.

Sure, you can decide that if a software company lets you down once you should move on. But I think if that’s your policy, you’ll be moving on quite frequently. There have been serious, serious bugs in at one time or another in many programs I rely on including numerous problems that corrupted data with Time capsule and Time machine. But it’s worth stepping back from the outrage and thoughtfully considering whether you should dump Mozy just because of this incident.

Despite the temporary glitch, Mozy still retains its powerful strengths, including the backing of a formidable parent company, full-featured Mac client software, excellent pricing for people with lots of data and — in my experience — responsive customer service.

If you disagree with my analysis or your experience was different than I described, please feel encouraged to post a comment below.

p.s. No matter which online backup service you use, remember that it should be only one piece of your backup strategy. Online providers can disappear, data could become corrupted or whatnot. Always have multiple, redundant, independent backups.

Previous coverage:

An update on online backup: Mozy’s still good (12/8/2008)

PCMag review misses Mozy’s greatness (4/17/2008)


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17 responses to “Mac users should stick with online backup Mozy”

  1. mozyfan Avatar
    mozyfan

    Nice analysis and agree that you need multiple backup strategy.

  2. johnvestal Avatar
    johnvestal

    I agree with the dual backup strategy. However, the problem with Mozy's handling of this problem was 1) all that tweeting was 4 days after the problem was reported and narrowed to Mozy. 2) They never posted on their web site a warning and their support people were telling people up through Wednesday to re-install a non-fixed version. They really need to get their support straightened out and warn people when a reasonable response will lose data (i.e. it looked like a Time Capsule problem and I along with a lot of other people deleted backups to “fix” the problem.

    John

  3. Mozy Review Avatar

    Mozy's support is not centralized, which is a problem. While Twitter is used for support, it's more of a marketing channel for them, and their support (if you try a live chat or email) replies with canned answers. Don't get me wrong: Mozy as a product is GREAT – I use it for 3 of my machines. But if there's a problem, you'll be left figuring it out on your own, or relying on the online community.

  4. Online Backup Avatar
    Online Backup

    I recommend the top 75 online backup companies here:
    http://www.backupreview.info/2009/08/02/top-75-

  5. Larry Humphreys Avatar

    The thing that gets me about Mozy is no file sharing or even remote file access and their 30-day retention policy. But for less than $5 a month I guess it's still a pretty good deal.

  6. mozynofan Avatar
    mozynofan

    I have used Mozy for the past 9-months simply b/c no other inexpensive online backup options exist for those with large quantities of data 250 +GBs and who run Power PC based Macs. During these 9-months I have experienced nothing but problems. The mozy client consistently has issues of failing to recognize selected files as part of backup sets (therefore not backed up), runs redundant full backups (takes 2-3 weeks) during which time new and modified files are not backed up, conflicts with other programs (including Time Machine), and spontaneously removes previously selected files from backup sets. Countless hours chatting with customer service and updates to the client software have been largely unhelpful in resolving these issues. In short, I have found Mozy to be highly unreliable, but the only low cost option available. So, I have forged ahead in hope that one day they will get it right.

  7. ampressman Avatar

    Wow. That stinks. I wonder if it is related to the Power PC or the age
    of your Mac? What version of OS X do you run?

  8. mozynofan Avatar
    mozynofan

    Currently running 10.5.8. Could be age of machine, but aside from the issues with mozy, the machine runs beautifully.

  9. Jeff Avatar
    Jeff

    A better alternative I found is egnyte. Egnyte is great with Mac and iphone as well as PC. Unlimited storage as well. I took their demo and they offer a free trial.

  10. AMP Avatar

    Thanks for the suggestion Jeff, but based on their web site, Egnyte is much more expensive ($15 per user per month for offsite storage). It also looks like a small, privately-funded company, which makes me nervous versus Mozy’s multi-billion dollar parent, EMC.

  11. Dan Reese Avatar

    Thanks for your comments. We goofed on this one, but will be taking steps to prevent this from happening again.

    Dan Reese
    Mozy, Inc.

  12. Dan Reese Avatar

    Let me add that I, too, deleted my Time Capsule disk in an attempt to fix the problem. :)

  13. ampressman Avatar

    Thanks for stopping by!
    -Aaron

  14. crowley37 Avatar
    crowley37

    Even though I like the concept of mozy it NEVER truly worked for me. I am using a MAC with Bootcamp in a slow transition from Windows. Three times the backup do wnload has either bluescreened or disabled functionality – F keys, Sounds etc..

    MY techs have advised me to cancel and find something else. Any advice. I have an external hard drive that I could back up to, but know of no similar software that backs up data the way mozy does. Suggestions?

  15. ampressman Avatar

    Glenn Fleishman reviewed a whole bunch of the options for Macworld here:

    http://www.macworld.com/article/142606/2009/09/

    Hope that helps.
    -Aaron

  16. backupvault1 Avatar
    backupvault1

    For online backup also consider http://www.backupvault.ie/.

  17. backupvault1 Avatar
    backupvault1

    For online backup also consider http://www.backupvault.ie/.

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