Apple will not slay Amazon’s Kindle, not even close

Defending the Kindle againThe title of this post, the latest in a seemingly unending stream defending Amazon’s Kindle e-book reader from hordes of misguided critics, was almost the exact same title as my June 20 post: The Kindle is for readers, the Kindle is for readers. The subject of today’s push back is a John Conley posting that I see only on Tim O’Reilly’s blog but which may have originated elsewhere.

To summarize, Conley is another Apple fan predicting that Apple will utterly destroy Amazon in the e-book market if and when the Cupertino gadget maker finally gets around to addressing the e-book reader market. I’m as big a fan of Apple products as anyone and dearly enjoy my Macs and iPods. But, unfortunately for Conley and others who make this argument about an Apple e-book reader, a successful reading device needs to be a hit with avid readers, not with avid gadget lovers. One meaty quote from amidst his post:

Amazon desires to be the Wal-Mart of Web distribution, but they have no value added other than price. Apple provides the connectivity, software, platforms, and most important, loyal customers. If and when they decide that ebooks are a viable driver or requirement to meet the needs to their tens of millions of incubated users they will dwarf the efforts of any other ebook service provider in the market and the publishers will readily come to them with content. (They will also not make the mistake of asking the publishers to provide the content in some proprietary format.)

As usual, almost everything underlying this latest Apple e-book fantasy is exactly backwards. Millions and millions of the most active, most book-buying, book-loving consumers on earth are customers of Amazon — it’s very best customers, in fact. That’s the huge market that book publishers need to access to make a go of e-books. It’s all well and good that Apple has “tens of millions of incubated users” but what they’re incubated to use are laptops and iPods and other gadgetry. The users may be super-active Internet surfers, have huge collections of digital pictures and know all the ways to win at “Age of Empires.” Whether they buy and read a lot of books in print is another story. Steve Jobs own sense of his customers seems to be that “people don’t read anymore.”

The next fallacy in Conley’s piece is that publishers will flock to Apple if it unveils an e-book reader. Yeah, right. So when Apple recently added rentable movies to the iTunes store, the movie studios flocked to Apple because it has this huge customer base? Not exactly. And when Jobs decided it was time to sell DRM-free music tracks, the music labels flocked to Apple to get to the huge customer base? Nope (Gee, who did they flock to? Amazon!). And when it came time for NBC to renew its agreement to sell the most popular downloaded TV shows like “The Office” and “Battlestar Galactica” over iTunes, of course the network renewed on Apple’s terms? Nope.

It seems Apple’s initial success with the iPod/iTunes model, whereby a lot of profits flow to the hardware maker, has spooked the big content creation corporations. I’m not saying I endorse the publishers’ view or agree that they’re acting even in their own long-term best interests. But as a simple prediction of what would happen, it’s really hard to see them going along with another Apple digital sales effort. They’ve snubbed everything Apple’s come up with lately. They don’t want to see a repeat of the iPod/iTunes scenario and so they’re not playing along with Apple, giant customer base or no.

Finally, there’s always the derogatory and wrong-headed descriptions of the Kindle’s economic model, its value equation for customers and its feature set. Keep in mind that an avid book buyer will save a lot of money buying e-books from Amazon, while being delighted and instantly gratified with the huge selection of e-books available wirelessly from any airport terminal, beach chair or living room sofa. Check out some of my earlier posts, such as here and here, for more on that debate.

And finally, don’t forget that Amazon is a great technology company that’s written its own software to run a massive web site reliably and which helps you find what you want when you want it and then lets you buy it fast. Apple, by contrast, was sorely lacking these kinds of online service and reliability skills in its recent MobileMe debacle.

Please feel free to leave your own take on the Kindle and Apple in the comments below. There’s plenty more wrong with Conley’s analysis and I’ll jump back in if people want to get into it in more detail.

Comments

32 responses to “Apple will not slay Amazon’s Kindle, not even close”

  1. Darryl Avatar

    I think you are correct in that Apple will not over run Amazon on e-book sales.
    Coming from the perspective of an avid book purchaser and Apple fan, I think you are also missing the boat in your argument as well.
    As an avid reader, the concept of having all of my books available in one electronic device is extremely inviting. having those books separate of my mobile internet device, in their current form (i.e. iPhoneiPod Touch) is also desirable.
    However, having thos same books available on my mobile device would also be important.
    Where I believe those that are inaccurate about Apple taking over this market is the assumption that readers are going to prefer to contain their libraries on their Apple device since in has multiple functions. This may be true for a certain segment of the market. I personally think that I and many others are only going to find portability of those book most important. Thus a Kindle with access to the largest online book store will be essential.
    Where I think you are missing the point is your assumption that Apples mobileme slip up some how means they are in capable of delivering solid online instant gratification. You are forgetting about the fact that iTunes is the most successful deliverer of online media today, with no signs of slowing down. The recent success of the App Store also suggest that adding a huge library of e-books would be just a matter of focusing on the category.
    You and those that your are countering assume that someone has to lose and someone has to win. It is my belief that both Apple with it's distribution system and Amazon with it's system will both largely be successful, for different reasons.

  2. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    “Apple, by contrast, was sorely lacking these kinds of online service and reliability skills in its recent MobileMe debacle.”

    You cannot compare Amazon running a reliable service with MobileMe; a service moving to newer technologies and updated features. There's a huge difference. One is running as-is, as it allows has, the other is in the middle of a transition, a lot of changes being made. As far as Apple not being able to run a large scale, high transaction service reliably and consistently, there is that little side project they started a few years back called iTunes. Which processes millions of transactions a day and who evens knows how much bandwidth they're pushing through their servers on a daily basis!? 5 million songs a day with an average file size of 3MB is equal to 15,000,000,000,000 bytes (15 TeraBytes) and that doesn't count, TV Shows, Movies, Audio Books, Podcasts, iPhone Apps, and iPod Games.

    I'd think Apple has plenty of experience in this area.

  3. veggiedude Avatar
    veggiedude

    Michael is right. Amazon has had years to get to where it is. Apple already has a built-in audience and trying to take them into a different new direction with technology. Amazon has never done that and it they did, I'm sure they would mess up also. If Apple wanted to, they could build a larger iPod touch (with a screen the size of a Kindle) and it would kill the Amazon Kindle over night. I'm hoping that day will come because then I won't have to lug my MacBook everywhere I go.

  4. Spiritus Avatar
    Spiritus

    At least 1 eBook publisher / seller is interested in Apple Products.
    http://www.webscription.net/t-iphone.aspx

  5. cesjr Avatar
    cesjr

    So I see – Apple won't slay the Kindle, because the book publishers will prop it up over the superior Apple offerings that customers would choose if the same content was available on it. You may be right, but long term, I think the media companies are going to lose this one. Effectively, they are forcing their customers to use an inferior product. That doesn't seem like a winning strategy. Further, in the future, people are going to carry one or maybe two personal computing devices that will do everything – how is the Kindle going to compete with that? The media companies will be forced to sell their content on the main platforms, including apple's

  6. Jim Stead Avatar
    Jim Stead

    Apple will not “slay” the Kindle because it represents too small a market to be interested in at this point, unless Apple thinks they have something that would completely change the market. Too little interest is my guess.

  7. Partners in Grime Avatar

    Amazon is second to Apple for legal music downloads — a very distant second — around one-tenth of iTunes.

  8. Hari Seldon Avatar
    Hari Seldon

    Well I for one am waiting for an apple e-book reader or should I say an Apple device that allows me to read e-books. (Apple's solution is bound to be a multi function device}. I also buy a lot of books from Amazon, but I would never get a kindle, it's an ugly device IMHO and I'm surprised that it is selling as well as it apparently is.

    If you've used an iPhone or iPod touch, it is hard NOT to come to the conclusion that a larger tablet sized device with the multi touch interface (perhaps with a few more gestures) is a no brainer. I wouldn't take too much notice of Steve Jobs oft quoted statement that people don't read books anymore, he said something similar about video on the iPod and we know how that went.

    I'm also into graphic novels (comics) and I would love a mobile version of ComicBookLover, a Mac application for e-comics or something similar. And I'm sorry, but Amazon are not a tech powerhouse, they run websites, very successful sites true and yes I know they patented one click shopping, but come on, an Apple Tablet (like the iPhone) will have been worked on for years before they release anything, Amazon do not have the expertise to continually iterate until they come up with something good enough to meet Steve Jobs exacting standards.

    I agree with the O’Reilly piece, Apple's entry into this market will blow away everyone else, I'm reminded of agent Smith in the Matrix.

    “That Mr Anderson is the sound of inevitability”

  9. AdamC Avatar
    AdamC

    Only time will tell whether you are a laughing stock or a Nostradamus – i will bet on the former…

  10. ampressman Avatar

    I'm not trying to say it's impossible for Apple to do anything.
    Rather, the suggestion was made that Apple's “core strengths” involved
    technology and Amazon's was just distribution. I'm arguing that Amazon
    is pretty good at web services while Apple has slipped up on at least
    this one occasion in a pretty major way. A book service would be brand
    new, too. Hopefully they wouldn't try it at the same time a new iPhone
    and new iPhone software came out ;)

  11. ampressman Avatar

    Interesting. If you read some of the blogs by publishing types or
    those who follow the industry, however, you get the sense that
    they're leary of giving Apple the keys to their DRM key. Kassia
    Krozser was bemoaning the fact that publishers were avoiding iPhones
    over the DRM issue on the Booksquare blog last month (See http://booksquare.com/sittin-here-watching-the-…)
    . She also had a terrible experience with the Fictionwise ereader on
    an iPhone by the way. Sara Lloyd, on the digitalist blog, thinks it's
    just publishers going slow as usual (See http://thedigitalist.net/?p=190)
    .
    -Aaron

  12. ampressman Avatar

    Hmm, I'm not sure I can agree about an “inferior” offering. Kindle is
    pretty great and the book prices are really great. Some might argue
    that Apple isn't serving the consumer so well holding video prices at
    $1.99 per episode, trying to charge more non-DRM files initially and
    so on. Yeah, Kindle isn't going win any beauty contests against the
    iPhone but so what…

    -Aaron

  13. ampressman Avatar

    Could be but the “winning” e-book reader is more than a pretty
    hardware device. The whole ecosystem has to be great. I'm arguing that
    Amazon has established an amazing ecosystem around the Kindle, one
    that Apple won't be able to match anytime soon. I guess we'll have to
    wait and see.

  14. ampressman Avatar

    I guess. Back in November there were plenty of the same people saying
    Kindle was a huge disaster and would be a flop. They were totally
    wrong. People have under-appreciated what the target audience wants in
    an e-book reader, and even who the target audience is.

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  16. Darryl Avatar

    Widescale e-book distribution would be new to Apple, but it would still be merely digital media. Adding another category to iTunes would be simple as….adding another category to iTunes. They do not have to create a completely new system to distribute large amount of e-books.
    I would be like added another shelf in a grocery store. Not that complex, which means their challenges with mobileMe has nothing to do with the ability to distribute e-books.

  17. Darryl Avatar

    Publisher want DRMed content, that way they can get paid for their work. It's all of us propeller heads that make an issue of DRMs. The general public cares non. Otherwise iTunes wouldn't continue to grow with all the other outlets offering non DRM content.

  18. AdamC Avatar
    AdamC

    Only time will tell whether you are a laughing stock or a Nostradamus – i will bet on the former…

  19. ampressman Avatar

    I'm not trying to say it's impossible for Apple to do anything.
    Rather, the suggestion was made that Apple's “core strengths” involved
    technology and Amazon's was just distribution. I'm arguing that Amazon
    is pretty good at web services while Apple has slipped up on at least
    this one occasion in a pretty major way. A book service would be brand
    new, too. Hopefully they wouldn't try it at the same time a new iPhone
    and new iPhone software came out ;)

  20. ampressman Avatar

    Interesting. If you read some of the blogs by publishing types or
    those who follow the industry, however, you get the sense that
    they're leary of giving Apple the keys to their DRM key. Kassia
    Krozser was bemoaning the fact that publishers were avoiding iPhones
    over the DRM issue on the Booksquare blog last month (See http://booksquare.com/sittin-here-watching-the-…)
    . She also had a terrible experience with the Fictionwise ereader on
    an iPhone by the way. Sara Lloyd, on the digitalist blog, thinks it's
    just publishers going slow as usual (See http://thedigitalist.net/?p=190)
    .
    -Aaron

  21. ampressman Avatar

    Hmm, I'm not sure I can agree about an “inferior” offering. Kindle is
    pretty great and the book prices are really great. Some might argue
    that Apple isn't serving the consumer so well holding video prices at
    $1.99 per episode, trying to charge more non-DRM files initially and
    so on. Yeah, Kindle isn't going win any beauty contests against the
    iPhone but so what…

    -Aaron

  22. ampressman Avatar

    Could be but the “winning” e-book reader is more than a pretty
    hardware device. The whole ecosystem has to be great. I'm arguing that
    Amazon has established an amazing ecosystem around the Kindle, one
    that Apple won't be able to match anytime soon. I guess we'll have to
    wait and see.

  23. ampressman Avatar

    I guess. Back in November there were plenty of the same people saying
    Kindle was a huge disaster and would be a flop. They were totally
    wrong. People have under-appreciated what the target audience wants in
    an e-book reader, and even who the target audience is.

  24. Darryl Avatar

    Widescale e-book distribution would be new to Apple, but it would still be merely digital media. Adding another category to iTunes would be simple as….adding another category to iTunes. They do not have to create a completely new system to distribute large amount of e-books.
    I would be like added another shelf in a grocery store. Not that complex, which means their challenges with mobileMe has nothing to do with the ability to distribute e-books.

  25. Darryl Avatar

    Publisher want DRMed content, that way they can get paid for their work. It's all of us propeller heads that make an issue of DRMs. The general public cares non. Otherwise iTunes wouldn't continue to grow with all the other outlets offering non DRM content.

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